Whitney houston streisand

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Al Sharpton , who called for a national prayer to honor Houston and support her family. She was like family to me. I will miss her. She has left behind a musical and film legacy that will endure Jakes , producer of Houston's final film project, a remake of the movie "Sparkle. She was outstandingly gorgeous, an excellent performer Excellent vocalist.

You Broadway queens know shit about other genres of music outside of showtunes. So please shut the fuck up. She sounded like a ancient black woman. She was off key and seemed to lose the thread of the song. That was a miserable performance. The Streisand Queens are as insane as Streisand - who gives autographed copies of her photo as gifts.

Streisand has had some bad plastic surgery too. Genre snobs of any genre are annoying, but at least classical, jazz and showtune snobbery has some basis in reality. R, you need help, only a complete moron would think Streisand's voice is better than Dinah Washington's.

You need to stop what you are doing and call and let them know that you are a demented psychotic who eats his own excrement and that you need to be committed ASAP! BTW dinah is just another talentless sidewalk singer! You really are pathetic! Dinah Washington would have never given the kind of performance that Barbra gave on the Oscars in I was embarrassed for her.

She couldn't hit some of the notes, was raspy and even her humming was off. You can see her nerves but she was thrilling. Barbra's voice seems not to be as reliable as it once was and I think it her reason for not performing as much as other legends. I think it is a matter of convenience to use the stage fright excuse.

Anyone that says she isn't great obviously has never had the privilege of seeing and hearing her live. Aretha IMO is the only one of her era who may rank higher as a singer in terms of voice and interpretive skills.

They have both expressed admiration for each in their own ways. I think Barbra has been more inspired by Aretha's singing than Aretha by Barbra. I think that Aretha has admired the career and opportunities that Barbra has had and so magnificently maintained. I think in the studio Whitney was the greatest Pop singer. A friend of mine who liked Whitney said that she took the soul out of her music which was actually a complement.

She created a perfect pop sound that appealed to almost anyone. I think Whitney suffered a backlash in the black community and tried to compensated with a more urban sound. You have no idea what you are talking about, Streisand was a pop and show tune singer. Her voice was OK, but nothing special, she could sing some songs, but there was no soul, no life, no guts and no sweats in her singing. Just clinical and simplistic sing-song singing. Her musicality was limited and her voice didn't have much control.

Whitney's singing was on a whole other level. It's really too bad we can't have an intelligent thread on Streisand and her talent without being invaded by insufferable queens hysterically screaming about the talents of other singers.

Go start your own fucking threads you morons. I think the general opinion on Streisand is that she had a magnificent vocal instrument, and that in terms of interpretive honesty, she was a great singer up until around the time of the movie version of FUNNY GIRL. But then she began to become more and more affected as the years went on, and her honest performances became fewer and fewer. That said, I cannot believe the stupidity of some people here who don't understand why it's only natural that, at the fucking age of 70, Streisand's voice is not as pristine or as powerful as it was 40 or 50 years ago.

Truly amazing. Can you sissies put this thread to rest and at least agree that Streisand sings better than Cruise? And maybe even Pitt and Depp? I would love to see how far these Streisand loons take their crazy ranting. At some point they will come at you through the computer screen.

Still no approval or green light for Gypsy. Who cares if Barbara can still sing People in the shower. And I don't think Lady Gaga is write for Louise. She doesn't have the sweet wholesomeness that Natalie Wood had. Who is Babs kidding? Not only that, Babs is also kind of too old to play Mama Rose.

I agree with you R You do realize that the movie Funny Girl came out 47 years ago? That's a long time to be increasingly affected and emotionally detached. It bothers Streisand fans that Whitney Houston sold more records with 6 albums and 2 soundtracks in a short career than Barbra has with her 50 albums in a 55 year career.

Sales aren't everything obviously, but Streisand hasn't been queen of anything for 30 years now. It is the praise from other singers and those in the music industry that Houston was considered to have the most beautiful and powerful voice EVER than distresses aging Streisand fans.

Houston eclipsed Streisand a long time ago and there really isn't much use comparing them. Whitney was beautiful and regal and poised, but still an honest, soulful and dynamic performer. Blazingly gifted, a diva and a homegirl. Dazzling and tragic. A voice of immense power and beauty. People rooted for Whitney and she gains more fans every day, though her voice was gone by when she was still in her 30's.

Whitney could sing like Streisand, but Streisand could never sing like Whitney. Streisand is not winning new fans with the hollow and dishonest music she keeps making with decreased vocal ability in the last 3 decades. Her best albums were in the late sixties and seventies, ending with the Broadway Album.

That was 30 years ago. The bombastic ego trips that she calls performances don't win her any new converts, especially as she is now quite underwhelming a singer to anyone who doesn't know her early work.

Whitney destroyed her voice, image, beauty and reputation in the last decade of her life, became a punchline for many. Yet she was stilled loved and respected. People rooted for her. Says a lot about the energy and heart she put into her music and performances and what she was able to communicate with her voice. She gave all she had and gave it directly and honestly to her audience and fans. There was joy and beauty and soul and longing there.

Streisand gives only as much as she has to. She frets and rants and obsesses over things that distract. There is no energy exchanged anymore. The music she produces is vain and soulless.

It's a myth that she has anything more to give. First of all R, though I might not agree on every point, I agree on more than I would have had I not read and thought about your keen observations.

That was a truly brilliant post. Is Whitney your favorite? Listen to any recording of Streisand in the 60s. Unbelievably Beautiful! Thank heavens those recordings will always exist. R But I agree with you. And even worse was her Grammy Appearance following. No match for Streisand in the 60s, but I couldn't get myself to switch back to the Grammys. Whitney Huston had a beautiful voiced and a very short-lived career, but she was certainly no interpretive genius on the level of Sinatra, Streisand and Garland.

So get off your fucking high horse. It is natural with age for the voice to deepen and get lower in range. Barbara Cook stopped singing her famous aria from Candide very shortly after she stopped performing the role and never sang it again for the rest of her very long career. It was too high. Whitney Houston could not sing her songs either, even before she stopped singing. Her last successful album, the one with My Love is Your Love, has not a single high note in it. So shut your cake holes bitches.

R, I saw Heart in concert back in Ann Wilson was 61 years old. She was singing all of her songs in the original keys. Very impressive. Thanks r You also liked my botched but beautiful post I appreciate your kind remarks.

I considered Houston's music perfect pop, if too mainstream and at times a little overbearing. I am two years younger than she and I was into other music when she came on the scene.

But I am a classically trained musician and always knew the rare excellence of her voice. So I went to see her sing. She was a revelation live, unconfined by the image Clive Davis created for her and free to sing her pop songs the way she wanted.

Some of them transformed into vocal arias, some of them became dark rythmic sexy jams and some of them went from love songs to songs of deep spiritual devotion. She sang better live and always elevated her 'pop' songs. That Whitney could sing a song in a straightforward way, with beautiful control, gorgeous crescendos, powerful sustained notes polished with stunning vibrato and so much resonance that the ring of her voice sounded like cathedral bells was proved early on.

That is what I meant when I said she could sing like Streisand. But Houston was a church girl singer and had a lot more than perfect clarity, tone and pitch to offer : Intricate runs done with ease and abandon, incredible technical feats of jumping from her darkest tones to her rich operatic head voice in one note, to her trademark trills and moans and bent note phrase endings. And yes, the melisma. It was refined and meaningful most of the time. She was great for a reason.

As was Streisand. The reasons are different. Houston's vocal perfection left early, but her artistry deepened for a time. She was a packaged product who was the real thing inside. It shone through, people got that. Not Sinatra, not Garland, not Aretha. Certainly not Streisand R I do admire them all and can explain what's great about each of them to you. That girl could work a song like few others, she was a better live singer than she was in the studio.

Her voice was in perfect form in those '80s videos. Her technique near flawless. But in the earlier video when she's singing the Dreamgirls song, she's starting to throw the technique out. Higher notes she should have been able to mix, she's not hitting them.

Anyone who doubts the greatness of Aretha should listen to and hopefully one day see her sing Marvin Gay's "Wholy Holy" from her "Amazing Grace" cd. It usually silences All critics. On this particular song the pianist plays magnificently especially on his solo and Barbra knows it. She has to step up her game and makes us know that "I am Streisand". It shows her command in a live setting. There is something about both Barbra and Aretha that they can take their performances to the edge but their respective trains never ever jumps the tracks.

That to me separates them from the pack and Whitney. Patti and Chaka can go too the edge but it's not with the same level of vocal beauty as Barbra and Aretha. I still think that the ones that are critical of Barbra's greatness have never heard her sing live. Does anyone care to dispute that? Celine, you're not a contemporary of Barbara's - and neither was Whitney, BTW, who was over 20 years younger.

That ranks as one of Aretha's greatest performances. Well, that performance and Mary, Don't You Weep. Then again, Amazing Grace solidified her status as the greatest female vocalist in the Rock N Roll era.

Even Mick Jagger made it his mission to see her perform live those two nights because he knew he would be witnessing history in the making. Modern Pop singing would be different today if it wasn't for Barbra and Aretha, and most people know that. Before those two came onto the scene most female singers tried mimicking Ella Fitzgerald. I always enjoyed Sheena Easton's voice. She was very a versatile singer. She doesn't sound nearly as good these days but would sound much better if the bitch would work with a vocal coach.

Ok, so I have posted a lot about Whitney Houston, but have said some grudgingly nice things to say about Ms. Streisand too: Here is a treat. One of the most beautiful recordings that Streisand ever made, a take from the gorgeous "If I Loved You. Her phrasing is meaningful, her breath and dynamics and legato are understated and masterful. She caresses the crescendos, keeps that warm haze to her voice and almost spins the top notes in her old famous way Close to sublime. The released version got all the way there.

I agree with you about her take on "If I Loved You" but why is it grudgingly given? Have you seen Barbra live? I actually like Barbra's version better than the Divne Sarah. Dinah Washington also has a very nice version. The show is dated, and Babs is no longer relevant. The perfect time for her to do it was when Bette Midler did it. I disagree that Steisand never pushed.

I wish there was a Summer only version. R is engaging in psychological projection just like all racist goyim do. If it wasn't for the goyische cults that brainwashed her, Whitney would still be alive today. I saw this two years ago. Honestly, the keys are lower, but I loved it. She took the audience by storm, was funny, had huge presence and had longer setlist than in US where the tour began.

I paid a lot for a ticket, but it was worth it. She stopped smoking in her 20s, drinks little and took good care of herself all her life.

Big aging changes have krept into her voice since her early 60s. In her later concerts some days are better than others- she remains one of the greatest singers who ever lived- diminishing, but artistry intact. And in her prime, late 50s through , I believe one of the most thrilling voices I've heard in my life- Price, Pavarotti, Garland, Aretha on and off- and the great stylists, Nat King Cole, Ella, Billie, a few others.

Saw Streisand live in 94 and she was extraordinary- modest, sweet, funny, honest- very classy ultimately topped by her voice- crowds going mad. My partner at the time, not a fan was stunned.

PS thanks for the rehearsal of Say You Love Me- when she finally sings it through a bit- lord the quality of her sound and the effortless power- it's almost better than the recorded version.

I've also heard a more extensive rehearsal of Since I Fell as she works out the phrasing and dynamics with what seems like an ability to do almost anything she wants with her voice- fascinating. Y'all need to take a powder- Whitney was certainly a great singer- but her problems impeded her more than Garlands did her.

Whitney was struggling with cocaine back in the 80s. My partner at the time bore witness to it on a number of occasions. She's the great "what if "for me. But what we have I mostly love- although she never really delved into the great American catalogue of music- and certainly did not break ground like Aretha and Ray Charles did bringing gospel sensibility into pop music, but she sure came out of the same mold.

As for Enough is Enough, Barbra ruled that song and donna couldn't even keep up Donna even passed out trying to carry a note as long as Barbra! You whitney and donna trolls can just crawl up a hole and die and do the world a favor! Get out of here you pathetic insatiable bottoms! The only thing Streisand ruled was having more power in Hollywood. As a singer Streisand was always just merely mediocre. Whitney didn't break the ground that Ray Charles and Aretha did in her small catalogue of hits and commercial music - she broke through all the damn barriers and the fucking stratosphere to change everything for every black singer to follow.

And she was criticized for it. She certainly sang gospel songs always and wherever she had a platform. In her television special, at every concert performance, on talk shows where she promoted her great friendships and collaborations with Cece and Bebe and Kim Burrell. The soundtrack from Waiting to Exhale is the biggest selling gospel album of all time, even if it is pop infused gospel. Whitney made it happen because of her huge stardom and insisted that her friends and family be part of it too.

When she hosted the American Music Awards in , she performed with Cissy and brother Gary and brought the reluctant house down with church music and the joy of singing.

Her voice was so flawless and free then. I understand that you meant that she did not marry the two worlds much Church was behind the pop princess voice but her vocal gift was too beautiful and technically superior to just sing glissandos and exclamations all day long like Aretha, ha! Whitney had it all, almost. This thread has passed the point of silly and moved on to ludicrous.

It is entirely and logically possible to admire, and even revere both of them. The over the top Whitney stan who has been denigrating Streisand and by extension perpetuating this thread needs to calm the fuck down. Whitney was great at what she did, and so is Barbra. These are not mutually exclusive positions and even for Datalounge the pointless who's better battle getting more than a bit tiring.

You just calling Whitney Houston a 'pop singer' disqualifies you from adding anything substantial to this thread, R What would you call her R? The bulk of the people perpetrating her myth are flyover gay club drag queens - the ones who are too old to have moved on to Beyonce.

I never thought of her as a pop singer, even in the beginning of her career she was not a pop singer. Pop singers don't give performances like she did. I hate the way some idiots have drank the kool-aid about "pop" meaning lightweight. Sinatra was a pop singer. And yes, Whitney. I admit I am not a musicologist, but when i listen to the Youtube links of Streisand's recent live performances, she seems to speak-sing at the beginning of each verse, then her voice goes into singing mode and it wavers all over the place from low to high.

Does it sound better when you're in the audience? I do like the idea that when she performs you can still see--and hear--this gawky Jewish girl from the streets and stoops of working-class Brooklyn an extreme example would be her telling an audience member to 'Shut the fuck up' while onstage at Madison Square Garden, which is also on YouTube.

Is that part of the attraction? Plus that she became a superstar and a worldwide sensation through singing AND acting with very little training at a very young age, and has maintained that status with very little scandal or negative publicity ever since. I admire her drive and her perfectionism and her ability to be serious and light-hearted at the same time "DoyouknowwhatImean?

But watching her sing on YouTube? Sorry, but it's hard to get through an entire song. Putting aside "Who had the best vocal instrument" question Over-production, shlock arrangements and mediocre material typified much of Whitney's and a lot of Barbras's more recent output. Streisand has shown an an appalling lack of taste in her musical arrangers since she split with Peter Matz after the first Broadway Album.

Nobody made Streisand sound better than Matz. Matz should have worked with Whitney on an album of American Songbook standards.

And thanks to R, I've rediscovered how gifted she really was. So thanks for that. Huston never sang standards because she didn't have the brains or the musical instinct to do it well. Lack of intelligence was Huston's big failing. If she hadn't been so damned stupid, her career would have been better and lasted longer.

She did some good things but she is certainly not on the level of Sinatra, Streisand and Garland. Streisand's innate intelligence shines through in whatever she does. Absolutely true. But I'm not sure it's a lack of taste that's responsible for Streisand's more recent choices of arrangers. Maybe she just likes to work with people she can bully, or people you will "yes" her to death and won't challenge her.

Like that talent-free director she's been working with for years. Listen to the album she did with Diana Krall. Is that appalling? How about the album she did with Babyface. Barbra and Whitney had dinner together a couple of times, and Whitney was a guest at Barbra's Malibu home. I think they really enjoyed each other's company.

Barbra has always been supportive of other female singers and has never talked in a negative way about a fellow singer or actor. She is class all the way. With stripped-down arrangements reminiscent of her first two albums, Streisand was back to being "an actress who sings".

Unfortunately, the schlockly overdone arrangements came back full throttle in her Bergman tribute. But her most recent "Partners", complete with a creepy 'duet' with dead Elvis with pallid re-dos with male singers of her most famous hits may be her worst recording to date.

From NY and I only say it to establish I had access to the greats. Gotta say, she was the most bring performer. Yeah, she hit the notes BC, before crack but she was a real turn off, there was no thrill in her shows.

She can hum on my tube-steak, but honestly with Barbra at 84 I just imagine it's Jennifer Lawrence. She was a call girl and I like that. She can hit some few notes, but that's all she does. She doesn't have much power in the lower register and her singing is devoid of any emotional depth and liveliness. When You Walk Into the Room. Carry Us. Love Will Bring You Home. David is a Grammy and Emmy nominated composer, arranger, songwriter, orchestrator, producer and instrumentalist who has worked in all areas of music, including film, records, advertising and television.

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